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 Some Thoughts by Thomas Merton on "Thinking About God"
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"And so there are two dangers to be avoided. First, we must not take our conceptual knowledge of God for what it is not. Second, we must at least take it for what it is. It must neither be underestimated nor overestimated. Both these these excesses end in a practical atheism. If we attribute too much power to our 'clear ideas' of God, we will end up by making ourselves a god in our own image, out of these clear ideas. If we do not grant concepts any power to tell us the truth about God, we will cut off all possible contact between our minds and Him."

Thomas Merton, The Ascent to Truth, p. 96
Posted by AZRON at 10:35 AM - 18 Comments   Add a Comment  
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Good morning Ron

This kind of reminds me: is the glass half empty or is it half full. All I know in my simplistic way of looking at things is that wherever I am, I can feel my Higher Power with me and that when I walk into church, it feels like I'm coming home. I can't ask for more than that in this life. I hope you are well!

CM
 
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by Celtic Mist (PM , CC ) on Thursday April 24, 2008 @ 10:42 AM




Good morning, C.M.

I have been missing our visits. I checked your blog to no avail. Thank you for coming back in my universe.

Your simple faith is beautiful.

May God walk with you today - may even the small signs of his presence in your life today bring gratitude and peace

ron
 
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by AZRON (PM , CC ) on Thursday April 24, 2008 @ 10:57 AM




I think I understand what is being said here, but funny thought is that I had to think of it in the terms of people wanting to describe heaven. Heaven is God's creation and He promises me that it will be awesome and I need not worry of it.
I think that is how I understand God, He is bigger than I can imagine, He is greater than I can describe, I don't try, I trust and work on understanding what he wants for me in the best Manual ever, His word.
 
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by Whispered Promise (PM , CC ) on Thursday April 24, 2008 @ 11:37 AM




WP,

I think you are right on with Merton here. His point is exactly yours - that for us to define God by our limited language and perspective is to do a disservice to his true nature.

thanks for commenting.

ron
 
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by AZRON (PM , CC ) on Thursday April 24, 2008 @ 1:59 PM




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by PolarB (PM , CC ) on Thursday April 24, 2008 @ 10:20 PM




LOL, PolarB,

very nice greetings.

I am working late tonight...

peace

ron
 
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by AZRON (PM , CC ) on Thursday April 24, 2008 @ 10:45 PM




I have a healthy respect for the love AND the wrath of God. He is the ultimate 'parent'. It has been brought to my attention lately that perhaps I have been a real teenager and have not been listening. It is time for my quiet walks by myself...when my mind is open to what God may give me.

Have a good evening!
 
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by HeatherScot (PM , CC ) on Thursday April 24, 2008 @ 11:05 PM




Heather,

Not to many people want to put the words Love and Wrath in the same sentence with God these days. They are in the same sentence in the Bible.

I would encourage you to follow our spirit and take those walks and do some talking with God the Father.

ron
 
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by AZRON (PM , CC ) on Thursday April 24, 2008 @ 11:09 PM




So this means that we need to work hard at discerning our true and false concepts of God? Or does it mean we need to trust ourselves and God more?  
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by Zoomer (PM , CC ) on Saturday April 26, 2008 @ 3:54 PM




Zoomer,

Right on both counts, friend.

We need to work harder at discerning our true and false concepts of God. Merton spends a whole chapter in this book on Fasle Mysticism. It is important that our views of God are based on revelation (as in the Bible) and on reason.

Second, we need to learn to trust God more because our hearts and minds fail us. If we trust our own 'street smarts' we think we don't really need God. Learning to trust God is the key to spiritual growth. As we trust God we learn to give our wills to him - which leads to further revelation of God to us (Acts 5:32).
 
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by AZRON (PM , CC ) on Saturday April 26, 2008 @ 5:25 PM




That is exactly how I feel!! There needs to be a definite 'balance'!  
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by Bry_M (PM , CC ) on Saturday April 26, 2008 @ 10:20 PM




Bry_M,

I am glad that Merton expressed your thoughts about God... I will add more quotes from Merton as time goes along

ron
 
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by AZRON (PM , CC ) on Saturday April 26, 2008 @ 10:25 PM




As I am the last person to think of myself in a god-like way it gives me great peace knowing he is in control. I'm a simple man with simple needs. Don (TS)  
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by Truth Seeker (PM , CC ) on Sunday April 27, 2008 @ 8:48 AM




TS,

definitely good to know you and I are not in charge of the world! I see your faith as steadfast and strong.

peace

ron
 
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by AZRON (PM , CC ) on Sunday April 27, 2008 @ 9:59 AM




Wow! I think I've done both.

Have a great week. Heide
 
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by Heide (PM , CC ) on Sunday April 27, 2008 @ 5:04 PM




Heide,

Thanks for coming by.

Yes, I think most of us have done both!

hope you are having a nice weekend

ron
 
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by AZRON (PM , CC ) on Sunday April 27, 2008 @ 7:05 PM




Balance is the key for sure! If we are not careful we can end up in one ditch or the other, and God intends for us to be balanced in our faith. Thank you!  
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by summerrayne (PM , CC ) on Sunday April 27, 2008 @ 8:04 PM




Summerrayne,.

staying out of ditches is a good thing - as some one has said a ditch is a grave with the ends knocked out!

glad to encourage your faith

ron
 
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by AZRON (PM , CC ) on Sunday April 27, 2008 @ 11:58 PM


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   
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